Fwd: [bangla-vision] NY Times and Muslims. RE: [Multicul-Pluralism Grp] Islam is the future. RE: At Top University, a Fight for Pakistan's Future

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From: kaukab siddique <butshikan@msn.com>
Date: Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:21 AM
Subject: [bangla-vision] NY Times and Muslims. RE: [Multicul-Pluralism Grp] Islam is the future. RE: At Top University, a Fight for Pakistan's Future
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Surprise, surprise!
I have a lot of support in America.
 
Americans are accepting Islam.
 
Islamic students have suffered tremendously at the hands of seculars. However, Islami Jamiate Talaba remains attractive for more Pakistani students than any other group.
 Where do you live? Let's meet. What makes you think New York Times is a reliable source of info for Muslims?

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Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:20:09 -0700
From: nssjobs@att.net
Subject: Re: [Multicul-Pluralism Grp] Islam is the future. RE: At Top University, a Fight for Pakistan's Future
To: Multiculturalism-PluralismGroup@yahoogroups.com
CC: butshikan@msn.com

Kaukab, 

 

Islamic students suffering? Isn't that the other way around? They are the ones who harassed everyone and beat the professor and you tell me they are justified.

 

Either you are a lunatic or psychopath. I have noticed that every time someone challenges you and your ideals, you call them Zionist or something. I really want to meet you someday and beat you like your friend at Punjab university did to the professor. But that is my wish only. I am not violent like your JUI bastards.  

 

Islamic students suffering. My ass!!!Go blow your loser horn somewhere and stop wasting our time in US. Why dont you go back to your country?

 

nazir

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From: Zina Khan <zina.khan@yahoo.com>
To: Multiculturalism-PluralismGroup@yahoogroups.com
Cc: kaukab siddique <butshikan@msn.com>
Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 10:03:05 AM
Subject: [Multicul-Pluralism Grp] Islam is the future. RE: At Top University, a Fight for Pakistan's Future

 

TYPICAL OF TERRORISTS TO CHASE THEIR OWN TAILS AND POINT FINGERS AT ALL AND SUNDRY WHEN THEIR OWN HOUSE STINKS LIKE MUSLIMO FASCIST SHIT ! --- On Wed, 4/21/10, kaukab siddique <butshikan@msn. com> wrote: From: kaukab siddique <butshikan@msn. com> Subject: Islam is the future. RE: At Top University, a Fight for Pakistan's Future Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 3:33 PM Typial of Hasni the sectarian. He ignored all the suffering Islamic students have undergone for decades at the hands of secularists. Many Islamic students have been killed.   Probably Hasni, the Zionist propagandist wannabee, cannot read Urdu.   Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:23:42 -0700 From: hasniessa@yahoo. com Subject: At Top University, a Fight for Pakistan's Future To: Multiculturalism- PluralismGroup@ yahoogroups. com At Top University, a Fight for Pakistan's Future By SABRINA TAVERNISE Published: April 20, 2010 E, Pakistan — The professor was working in his office here on the campus of Pakistan's largest university this month when members of an Islamic student group battered open the door, beat him with metal rods and bashed him over the head with a giant flower pot. Iftikhar Baloch Related Times Topic: Pakistan Enlarge This Image Adam Ellick/The New York Times The Lahore campus of the University of the Punjab. Pakistan's premier institution of higher learning has about 30,000 students.   Iftikhar Baloch, an environmental science professor, had expelled members of the group for violent behavior. The retribution left him bloodied and nearly unconscious, and it united his fellow professors, who protested with a nearly three-week strike that ended Monday. The attack and the anger it provoked have drawn attention to the student group, Islami Jamiat Talaba, whose morals police have for years terrorized this graceful, century-old institution by brandishing a chauvinistic form of Islam, teachers here say.   But the group has help from a surprising source — national political leaders who have given it free rein, because they sometimes make political alliances with its parent organization, Jamaat-e-Islami, Pakistan's oldest and most powerful religious party, they say.   The university's plight encapsulates Pakistan's predicament: an intolerant, aggressive minority terrorizes a more open-minded, peaceful majority, while an opportunistic political class dithers, benefiting from alliances with the aggressors.   The dynamic helps explain how the Taliban and other militant groups here, though small and often unpopular minorities, retain their hold over large portions of Pakistani society. But this is the University of the Punjab, Pakistan's premier institution of higher learning, with about 30,000 students, and a principal avenue of advancement for the swelling ranks of Pakistan's lower and middle classes.   The battle here concerns the future direction of the country, and whether those pushing an intolerant vision of Islam will prevail against this nation's beleaguered, outward-looking, educated class.   That is why the problem of Islami Jamiat Talaba is so urgent, teachers say. "They are hooligans with a Taliban mentality and they should be banned, full stop," Maliha A. Aga, a teacher in the art department, said of the student group as she stood in a throng of protesters in professorial robes this month. "That's the only way this university will survive."   The rhetoric of the group, like that of its parent political party, is strongly anti-West, chauvinistic and intolerant of Pakistan's religious minorities. It was a vocal supporter of the Taliban, until doing so became unpopular last year.   Its members block music classes, ban Western soft drinks and beat male students for sitting near girls on the university lawn.   "It's fascist," said Shaista Sirajuddin, an English literature professor, of the Islamic student movement. "Every single government has averted its eyes."   The group is something of a puzzle. It may be aggressive, but it is relatively small, and has waned in popularity among students in recent years. One young teacher said association with it now brought stigma.   But it still manages to dominate by deftly wielding Islam as a weapon to bludgeon its enemies, denouncing anyone who disagrees with it as un-Islamic.   The tactic is effective in Pakistan, a young country whose early confusion about the role of Islam in society has hardened into a rigid certainty, making it highly taboo to question. "It's unthinkable to talk even about human rights without reference to the Holy Book," said Ms. Sirajuddin, referring to the Koran. "Such is the dread to be talked about as un-Islamic." The reason goes back to history. In the 1980s, an American-supported autocrat, Mohammad Zia ul-Haq, seeded the education system with Islamists in an effort to forge a unified Pakistani identity. At the University of the Punjab, that created a pool of supporters for Islami Jamiat Talaba among teachers, making the group all but impossible to eject. It has left liberal teachers like Ms. Sirajuddin despairing for their institution, which once upon a time produced three Nobel laureates. Now, they say, it is a shadow of its former self and no longer a safe environment for young people to exchange ideas.   One of the leaders of the group's national chapter, Nadim Ahmed, condemned the beating as "shameful," and said the main attackers had been suspended. But he emphasized that the group itself was peaceful. Its only ambitions, he said, are to welcome new students and organize book fairs. 1 2 Next Page » Waqar Gillani contributed reporting. A version of this article appeared in print on April 21, 2010, on page A1 of the New York edition. Reprints Times Reader 2.0: Daily delivery of The Times - straight to your computer. Subscribe for just $4.62 a week. Jamaat-e-Islami Get E-Mail Alerts  The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. Get busy.

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