Fwd: How the Jihadi Propaganda Minister does his dirty work - with his chamcha's help

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From: Feroze Mithiborwala <feroze.moses777@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: How the Jihadi Propaganda Minister does his dirty work - with his chamcha's help

Dear All,

 

Going by the non-intellectual level of the rabid racist neoconservative zionist amongst our midst certain matters must be made a little clear.

 

Firstly it is well known historical fact that it was the Cannanites, Amorites & the Jebusites that were & are the original People of the the land. And they have a recorded history of more than 4000 years to prove their presence & that of a flourishing culture & economy in the land of Palestine.

 

The excellent book INVETION OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE - by Prof Shlomo Sand (http://inventionofthejewishpeople.com/) is a must read by anyone who is a serious observer of the occupation of Palestine by Israel.

 

It is from these various ethnic groups that people later converted to Judaism, then to Christianity & then to Islam. There are all people of Semitic origin, irrespective of their religion.

 

The fact of the matter is that the majority i.e. 80% & more of Global Jewry are of Ashkenazi-European origin & thus have no organic link to the land. Period!!

 

The heresy of Zionism that is wrecking havoc across the world - that has targeted Jesus Christ & sougth to dethrone him from the very centrality of Christianity, is now being successfully challenged & defeated by the mainstream Churches.

 

The Scofield Bible is the key to understanding & comprehend the scale of the infiltration & as to the planned manner in which Christianity was sought to be Zionised - Where Israel & the racist concept of the "Chosen People of God", replaces Jesus as the centre of Christianity & that is what precisely is the case.

 

1) The Zionist-Created Scofield 'Bible' -

The Source Of The Problem In The Mideast - Part 2
Why Judeo-Christians Support War - By C. E. Carlson

http://www.rense.com/general60/zcre.htm 

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2) Christian Zionists, Israel and the ' second coming' - by Donald Wagner

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4930.htm

 

The recent statements from within the Churches & calls for boycott are gaining support within the clergy & the laity. The Kairos Ecumenical Declaration is a major step ahead in that direction.

 

Also remarkably is the growing Jewish challenge to Zionism, which itself has a history of more than a century of Jewish resistance to Zionism.

 

Yakov Rabkin's remarkable writings below are a must read for those who want to understand the threat that Zionism poses to Judaism from a Jewish perspective.

1) Demystifying Zionism by Yakov Rabkin (A Canadian scholar)

http://www.yakovrabkin.ca/english/articles/judaism-zionism-and-israel/demystifying-zionism/

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2) Judaism vs Zionism in the Holy Land by Yakov Rabkin

 

http://www.yakovrabkin.ca/english/articles/judaism-zionism-and-israel/judaism-vs-zionism-in-the-holy-land/

 

After we have read these articles, we can take the debate a few steps ahead.

 

Warm Regards

 

Feroze

 

 

 

 

 

On 22 July 2011 12:03, Mario Goveia <mgoveia@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

RP,   The reason you are confused is because you are looking for good where there is none.   Feroze's JOB is to confuse you.  Sadanand is a convenient Hindu chamcha he has found.  Haven't you noticed how they compliment each other - immediately giving each other pats on the back to try and reinforce each other's lies?   According to them there is no such thing as Muslim jihadis - the culprits are RSS, Sanatan Sanstha, CBI, CIA, Mossad and the Zionists.   I realized that Feroze was a jihadi propagandist long ago when I saw him supporting the terrorists of Hamas - in spite of what the terrorists themselves have written in their founding charter.   He said that the Jews were occupiers in the middle-east when we know from history that it was the Muslims who were the occupiers in the middle-east just like it was the Muslims who occupied India.  If the Jews were really occupiers why did Jordan and Egypt make peace with them?   He said that 9/11 was committed by the US government when even Osama Bin Laden said it was committed by Al Qaeda.   He said that 26/11 was committed by the Indian government when all the terrorists were connected with the LeT in Pakistan.   He said there is no Indian Mujahedeen.   He said that Osama Bin Laden had died in 2001 which even Al Qaeda has rubbished.   Now, before the blood had even dried in Mumbai on 13/7 we saw him desperately trying to deflect attention everywhere he could.   How many more lies do you need before you realize what he is up to?   All you need to remember is that every Muslim-majority area and country in the world is ethnically cleansed.   Even the Jihadi Propaganda Minister cannot turn that upside down.   --- On Thu, 7/21/11, RP Shahi <rpshahi@gmail.com> wrote: From: RP Shahi  Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 10:51 PM Well every one ! Its very confusing to me, when people here question the findings and accusations of the same investigating agencies and govt while quote the arrest and acceptance by RSS or VHP swamis or members. Can we follow double standards, as per our convenience? Lets not be a page 3 activist who come out immediately after some statement by Govt, to oppose it and support any thing which the others say. If we dont believe in any agency of our own elected govt,it would be a very bad situation. I dont say that CBI or other agencies which are being controlled by Govt are always right, there are many loop holes, but if we dont believe them, whom to believe? OR if we dont believe them then whats the reason for believing some thing which some group is saying which is contrary to govt version. How do we know that that organisation is authentic? RP On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Feroze Mithiborwala <feroze.moses777@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Sadanandji Holmes,   Well Done There.   You have easily ripped apart the anomalies inherent in the stories planted by the IB.   Riyaz Bhatkal too has been long dead.   During the Pune blasts we were told that Riyaz came to Pune from Pakistan & then went back after the attack. In the CCTV footage that they said was Riyaz Bhatkal - the IB-RAW-ATS then framed Samad Bhatkal as the one in the CCTV footage.   The CCTV footage was a cut & paste job as from the fist day on the Police had said that the CCTV's were badly damaged & had no clues. Then they said that they had footage from the surrounding buildings. If you research the stories by Kaumudi, a journalist in Pune, you will note that the CCTV's were of a very low pixel to begin with & could not see beyond the compounds onto the streets.   Then they said that had the frame from over the Cash Counter - Riyaz Bhatkal became Samad Bhatkal, but finally the ATS released him.   Later Maria had to close the case, so he sntrapped to young Muslims with a criminal record.   That is how it is all done.   Also note the case of the 2 boys (13th March 2010) who were alleged to try to burn down the ONGC but could not procure petrol. It was a love affair that got one of the Muslim boys into trouble & the father sealed his fate by getting the ATS to frame him, I'm sure for a decent sum. The case is ongoing, they live in the slums of Behrampada & Dharavi & now the ATS is not even appearing for the ongoing trial. My friend Farrouk Mapkar (who himself was a victim of the 92-93 riots, was nearly shot dead by the police).   Then you are already aware about how the story changed on Malegaon (x2), Ajmer, Samjhauta, Mecca Masjid Hyderabad, Goa & the whole range of blasts attributed to IM, but finally linked to Abhinav Bharat & Sanatan Sanstha.   Do read all the detailed police reports by Praveen Swami of all the meetings that were held to plan the terror attack, the key operatives in the meeting, the SIM cards found, telephone conversations tapped . . . & then do please ask as to how we can believe the state, the police investigations & the corporate media in ther case of all the terror attacks & now on Mumbai 13/7 as well.   So there are 3 ways of taking the police narrative apart:   1) The varying versions that appear in the media. Each paper has its "sources said" & thus the "masterminds" differ from newspaper to newspaper & so do the suspects & terror organizations.   Not too many people read all the 5 main English newspapers, leave aslone all the other 20 odd Marathi & Hindi & . . .   A comparative study of even the Pune 13/2 blasts if undertaken by you, will prove this fact.   2) A fact finding team at the spot does help, as it did in the case of exposing Malegaon & Nanded, as well as the worthy work done by Nandita Haksar & Arundati Roy on the Parliament attack.   3) This is in tandem with a socio-economic & political analysis of the terror attack.   All of the above will lead us to the truth in my estimation.   The article by General Leonid Ivashov that I sent out last night is very important, do read it - again if required.         On 21 July 2011 19:43, Sadanand Patwardhan <2sadanand@gmail.com> wrote: http://www.indianexpress.com/story-print/819719/   This article appeared in Indian Express attributed to Johnson T A. It looks massaged, or carefully leaked narrative. It refers to NIA's executive summary without saying if it is in public domain or accessed by or leaked to the author. The suspect characters mentioned are either in jail or were arrested and had to be released or were mentioned as absconding since long. Headley seems to be obligingly retrofitting the events that supposedly took place in the past.   Quote. For instance, one of the accused in the IM's southern India network, Ahmed Bava, arrested in Mangalore on October 3, 2008 in a police crackdown on the network, following the Batla House encounter in New Delhi, told interrogators that Riyaz Bhatkal, co-founder of the IM, and his brother Iqbal had made efforts to buy a fishing boat at Malpe near Mangalore on September 18, a day before the Batla House encounter occurred. According to Bava's account, the Bhatkal brothers quizzed a boat owner on a wide range of capabilities of a boat and negotiated a price in the range of Rs 20 lakh for it. They told Bava that the boat would be used for smuggling gold. According to police sources, who have questioned the boat owner, the prospective buyers never returned to close the deal. Seen in the context of the NIA's interrogation of Headley in June 2010 where the American states that the LeT was trying to get a boat to transport the 26/11 attackers to India as early as September 2008, this effort to buy a boat in Mangalore by the IM operatives is being seen as a possible instance of the IM pitching in for the LeT for the Mumbai attacks. According to the executive summary of the NIA's interrogation of Headley, both the LeT and Pasha — who is linked to al-Qaeda elements like Illyas Kashmiri — were running parallel Karachi setups for operations in India. unquote   "Ahmed Bava, arrested in Mangalore on October 3, 2008....told interrogators that Riyaz Bhatkal....had made efforts to buy a fishing boat at Malpe near Mangalore on September 18". Author doesn't say when he got this information, now, or back then in October 2008 when Bava told his interrogators. If back then, did he publicize it or sat on it till now?  If he has got it now, then it is quite obvious that he is acting as a conduit to publicize that material, which would give an appearance that investigative agencies are painstakingly putting together different clues.    quote From the evidence of the leads being chased by investigators into the July 13 triple bomb attack on Mumbai, it is fairly clear, though not overtly stated, that the focus is again on picking up lost threads of what is now known as the Indian Mujahideen network — from as far back as the 2002 attack on the American Center in Kolkata, involving gangster Aftab Ansari and IM co-founder Sadique Sheikh. unquote   Why should the investigative agencies wait for another *terror attack* to happen for *picking up lost threads*? This clearly looks like a case for making a charge of dereliction of duty.  See below.   quote Who these people in Karachi were who were wanting to work for a terrorist network being operated by Syed Abdur Rehman Pasha, who is now on India's most wanted list of terrorists, is still not clear though there is anecdotal evidence from the interrogation of people like the most recently arrested Pakistan trained Indian Mujahideen operative, Salman Ahmed, that at least five top IM leaders who were in India till October 2008 are now in Karachi.   Ahmed Bava, arrested in Mangalore on October 3, 2008 in a police crackdown on the network   NIA's interrogation of Headley in June 2010 unquote   Most recently arrested operative Salman Ahmed was taken into custody way back in March 2010. Bava is in custody since October 2008. Headley's interrogation took place in June 2010. So all the LOST THREADS have been in the hands of investigating agencies since over a year. Why are they talking about it now after the July 2011 attacks? They should have known this for over a year at least. Something suspicious out there?   Sadanand     -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Citizen-Mumbai" group. To post to this group, send email to citizen-mumbai@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to citizen-mumbai+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/citizen-mumbai?hl=en. -- Feroze Mithiborwala --

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