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Date: Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Swami Ramdev Cannot Cure All Diseases
From: N Hirani <n_hirani@sky.com>
Date: Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: Swami Ramdev Cannot Cure All Diseases
Hare Krishna
Ashok T. Jaisinghani
First thank you for replaying, you have misunderstood present system of Vernasaram to be Hindus, It is not, it is British's, If it was, you think someone like Sonia will ever become Ruler of Country, Varnasrama system by birth is British's not Hindus or Sanatana Dharma's, In fact Congi are more interested in caste system that is going on in India now then today's Hindus because it server their political purpose.
See Bhagavad-gita As It Is Sloke 4.13 According to the three modes of material nature and the work ascribed to them, the four division of human society were created by Me. And, although I am the creator of this system, you should know that I am yet the non-doer, being unchangeable.
Meaning Krsna has created three mode of material nature and it is entirely up to you which mode of material nature you like to be in e.g. Mode of goodness, Mode of passion or Mode of Ignorance, and according to your attraction to particular Mode of material nature your careactor and behavior will be according to that and your Varnasrama will be judged according to that. e.g. Guna and Karma not Janma and Karma.
As for Ramdev cannot cure all the diseases, I am not going to go into that but what I can say is, person who is elevated in yoga, he chooses his own death and he decide which planet he want to go and he lives his body accordingly. So there is no question of disease in person who is elevated in yoga, he controls every air, blood cell, nerve etc in his body. So there is no question of yoga can not cure all disease but are they or Ramdev to that level, that i will live you to judge.
This eating meat, fish, chicken and egg and want to call your self higher caste then you have your own caste and you can call your self higher caste in that caste system just like there are so many religion doing that, you want be higher caste in Sanatana Dharma by doing that no matter how much you try, people may say for political correctness thing that are not right but you want get that from Hare Krishna follower, if you want to be higher caste you will have to change in Hare Krishna.
NaranH
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On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Ashok T. Jaisinghani <ashokjai@sancharnet.in> wrote:
Swami Ramdev Cannot Cure All DiseasesIn your email, you have mentioned, "according to British invader, Lord Macaulay, Indian system of Varnasaram is so good that we will have to break that down in order to rule over India."Why are millions of Hindus giving up their religion every year to become Christians, Muslims, Marxists and Buddhists? The young well-informed Hindus of the modern world don't want to be told daily by quacks like Ramdev that they should drink cow's urine and eat cow-dung. The Hindus of modern times prefer to eat meat, fish, chicken and eggs rather than drink cow's urine and eat cow-dung.The majority of Dalits of the lower castes do not wish to call themselves as Hindus. If we consider the Buddhists and Sikhs as separate communities, the Hindus are already in a minority in the total population of India. Why don't the Hindu leaders care to accept such facts?You have asked, "I don't know why you are against Swami Ramdev and I don't know why you don't like back era of India." It seems that you have not read the correspondence on Ramdev properly.Let me repeat my words once more from one of my emails, shown below, "As a person who boastfully claims that he can cure all diseases, including AIDS, Asthma and Cancer, with Yoga exercises, Swami Ramdev should be considered as a most dangerous QUACK and a big FRAUD. No QUACK like Swami Ramdev can solve the problems of India. Such QUACKS are only known to increase the problems of India due to their primitive thinking."There is nobody in the world who can cure all diseases by using any system of treatment including Yoga and Ayurveda. If anybody could cure all diseases, then some human beings should be able to live for ever on this Earth. Such a thing is just not possible. We know very well that nobody can escape death by using any system of treatment. Finally, each person must die one day.Ashok T. Jaisinghani.
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_________________________----- Original Message -----From: N HiraniCc: sandesh ; Dinesh Agrawal ; DAVE MAKKAR ; Dr Rajiv Arora MD - Sanatan Dharma ; Bhailal Patel ; Dr Ram Kripal Sinha (Editor - BJP Today) ; Francois Gautier ;Sent: 13 Apr 2011 9:59 PMSubject: Re: You are Free to Follow RamdevHare KrishnaAshok T. JaisinghaniI like your emails, it is informative and challenging with justification, I think if I am not wrong, you live in India, I don't know why you are against Swami Ramdev and I don't know why you don't like back era of India, according to British invader, Lord Macaulay, Indian system of Varnasaram is so good that we will have to break that down in order to rule over India.As for drinking cow's urine, tablet I am having for cloistral control, according to my friend who is running health shop says it is made from horse urine, And I have read in Prabhupada's book certain margarine was extracted from human stool. And there are so many western things you don't know what they are made from, Problem with you is, I think, you think, this thing that Ramdev says are all speculative they don't work but if you know it works you want have problem accepting them like western medicine no matter how much abominable thing it is made from.why someone will not use anything for his health if it works, no matter how much abominable it is, after all people who is meat, eat animal's privet parts and after all chicken eggs are all chicken semen that is what I think anyway.NaranH___________________________________________________________
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Ashok T. Jaisinghani <ashokjai@sancharnet.in> wrote:
You are Free to Follow RamdevWho is stopping you from following Swami Ramdev? As advised by him, you too can drink cow's urine and eat cow-dung like his other followers.You can also live in a cave or a hut like the ancient people of India 5000 years back. You need not live in a flat. You can travel by bullock-carts. People like you can avoid using mobile phones, TVs, Internet, cars, buses, trains, aeroplanes, etc. You are free to live like the backward people of ancient times.Ashok T. Jaisinghani.
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_________________________----- Original Message -----From: sandeshSent: 11 Apr 2011 1:26 AMSubject: Re: Doordarshan telecasts Ramdev's Yog Vigyan Program daily at 5-30 AMNamaskar once again,sorry for the delay in responding.actually, there was technical and health (right ear) problem at my end, which prevented me from writing.anyway, his live astha broadcast is restarted.you say Swami Ramdeo will take this country 5000 yaears back? you mean it was the era of Shri Krishna and Pandavas, and of course, india of time was much much advanced in all fields (including technology) than what it is today.now, what is primetive?Regards,Sandesh----- Original Message -----From: Ashok T. JaisinghaniTo: sandeshCc: N Hirani ; Savarkar Vinayak ; Dinesh Agrawal ; DAVE MAKKAR ; Dr Rajiv Arora MD - Sanatan Dharma ; ORGANISER Weekly ; Bhailal Patel ; Dr Ram Kripal Sinha (Editor - BJP Today) ; Francois GautierSent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:46 PMSubject: Re: Doordarshan telecasts Ramdev's Yog Vigyan Program daily at 5-30 AMWinking Quack Ramdev shall NEVERGet Power to Select any PM of India!Sandesh Narayane Jee,Let me repeat my words from my last email, "As a person who boastfully claims that he can cure all diseases, including AIDS, Asthma and Cancer, with Yoga exercises, Swami Ramdev should be considered as a most dangerous QUACK and a big FRAUD. No QUACK like Swami Ramdev can solve the problems of India. Such QUACKS are only known to increase the problems of India due to their primitive thinking."Why cannot Swami Ramdev use his own medicine "Dhristi Eye Drops" to cure the defect in one of his own eyes? According to his claim, "Dhristi Eye Drop helps in controlling the cataract, improves vision, and its prolonged use helps keeping away all eyes problem." Instead of curing the defect in his vision, he is always seen constantly winking with one of his eyes at the TV viewers. Obviously, the claims he makes about his medicines are bogus. Therefore, Swami Ramdev can be considered a dishonest person.No dishonest person like Swami Ramdev can remove corruption from India. The people of modern India shall never give power to a QUACK like Swami Ramdev to select any future Prime Minister of our country. Such primitive thinkers shall never be given the right to make India become a backward country like it was 5000 years ago.Ashok T. Jaisinghani.
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_________________________----- Original Message -----From: sandesh <sandeshnarayane@gmail.com>Sent: 30 Mar 2011 12:01 AMSubject: re: Doordarshan telecasts Ramdev's Yog Vigyan Program daily at 5-30 AMNamaskar mitra,actually, the program of doordarshan "Yog Vigyan" has nothing to do with Astha program. try to understand what i actually have stated. in fact, Yog program of DD is shown only as a Yog program but on Astha channel, where he speaks against corruption along with Yoga has problems for government. so, try differenting between DD recorded and edited Yog program and the live telecast of Astha where he speaks about Bharat Swabhiman Andolan. another thing is who are we to judge whether Baba Ramdeo does possess political and economic knowledge or not? on what basis, can we make such claim?we Bhartiya do have the mindset of calling something wishful if it doesn't suit our liking. it's not a problem with you alone.lastly, we are going to the wrong direction, what he prescribes is not question here, we have to admit that he increased the awareness about Yog and Bhartiy medicine among the common people. it's plain fact, whether you like or not doesn't make any difference. and why are we making unnecessary comments? just wait and watch.if he has truth with him, nobody can prevent him from removing corruption out of this country. and i think, you would also love that if that becomes reality.with regards,Sandesh_________________________----- Original Message -----From: Ashok T. JaisinghaniTo: sandeshCc: N Hirani ; Savarkar Vinayak ; Dinesh Agrawal ; DAVE MAKKAR ; Dr Rajiv Arora MD - Sanatan Dharma ; ORGANISER Weekly ; Bhailal Patel ; Dr Ram Kripal Sinha (Editor - BJP Today) ; Francois GautierSent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 5:43 PMSubject: Re: Doordarshan telecasts Ramdev's Yog Vigyan Program daily at 5-30 AMRamdev is a Most Dangerous Quack!There are many wise fellows like you who do not know the implications of what they are saying. In your email of March 21, you have clearly asked, "there won't be live program of Shri Ramdeo on Astha channel. government has put restriction on his live telecast in morning. information and broadcasting ministry has put restrictions, why?"How can you blame the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting for working against Swami Ramdev when it is actually promoting Swami Ramdev through the Yog Vigyan Program that is telecast every day on the National Channel of Doordarshan, which has the largest number of TV viewers in India? Swami Ramdev is deliberately being promoted as a big leader by the UPA Government to cause a massive rift in the Hindu community.In your email of March 26, you have asked, "why should we say anything about his political and economic knowledge?" Can anyone remove corruption from India if he does not have the knowledge about the political and economic matters of the country?You have described Swami Ramdev as "the person who wants to remove the corruption from the country along with his health-conscious nature has to be admired by all."How can any person like Swami Ramdev remove corruption from India without having any power like that of the Prime Minister of India? It is only wishful thinking to imagine that Swami Ramdev can have the capability of banishing corruption from India without having any power. Even the Prime Minister with all his powers does not have the ability to remove corruption that has become deep-rooted in India. With his primitive ideas, a person like Swami Ramdev can never bring about a revolution that can remove corruption from India.Lastly, why should Swami Ramdev be admired for his so-called health-conscious nature? As a person who boastfully claims that he can cure all diseases, including AIDS, Asthma and Cancer, with Yoga exercises, Swami Ramdev should be considered as a most dangerous QUACK and a big FRAUD.No QUACK like Swami Ramdev can solve the problems of India. Such QUACKS are only known to increase the problems of India due to their primitive thinking.Ramdev Prescribes Onion Juice for EyesRamdev prescribes his product "Drishti Eye Drops" containing Onion, Ginger and Lemon Juice, mixed in Honey, for ailments of the eyes. He claims, "Drishti Eye Drop is a powerful antiseptic solution which gives a cooling and soothing effects on eyes without any harmful effect on eye tissue. It helps controlling the cataract, improves vision, and its prolonged use helps keeping away all eyes problem. It balances the doshas and thus keeps the eyes healthy."The above-mentioned claim of Swami Ramdev is false. If the Dhristi Eye Drops could help in case of all eye problems, why cannot Swami Ramdev use his medicine for curing the defect that he has in his own eye?Ashok T. Jaisinghani.
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_________________________----- Original Message -----From: sandeshSent: 26 Mar 2011 7:56 PMSubject: Re: Doordarshan telecasts Ramdev's Yog Vigyan Program daily at 5-30 AMThis is to inform you that i talked only about his live broadcasts on Astha channel. Even Astha do give his programs but they are not live ones now.i didn't talk about his being future prime minister. even he is not interested in such a post. Yes, Shri Rajiv Dixit was a deserving candidate but he is no more now. so what Swami Ramdev is saying now that he wants to see the political power in the right hands. just see the names you are taking have the capacity to run the country? the only name which strikes is Shri Narendra Modi, yes he is capable leader.why should we say anything about his political and economic knowledge? those seeming to possess that (including names you wrote in the mail except for Shri Narendra Modi) were given the opportunity. what they did for Hindus and all bharatiya? everybody knows very well. so, the person who wants to remove the corruption from the country along with his health-conscious nature has to be admired by all.Jay HindSandesh__________________________----- Original Message -----From: Ashok T. JaisinghaniTo: sandeshCc: Bhagavaandaas Tyaagi. ; Devraj Halai. ; Dr Arun Vaidyanathan. ; Hari Bhudia. ; Kapil Dudakia. ; Purshottam Walji. ; Ramesh Dattani. ; Soni Dipak J. ; Vasant Sardesai.Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 5:31 AMSubject: Doordarshan telecasts Ramdev's Yog Vigyan Program daily at 5-30 AMDoordarshan telecasts Swami Ramdev'sYog Vigyan Program daily at 5-30 AMSwami Ramdev's Yog Vigyan Program is still being telecast at 5-30 AM every day on Doordarshan's National Channel, which is under the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting, Government of India. By giving massive publicity to Ramdev, and by boosting his image through the program of Yog Vigyan, the ruling UPA Government has been trying to cause more divisions in the people believing in Hindutva. It is just another Congress conspiracy to Divide and Rule by splitting the votes of Hindus and making the UPA win in the future elections. The Hindus should understand the political tricks that the Congress Party has been playing for many years to remain in power.Some persons wrongly believe that Swami Ramdev can become so great that he can lead India in the political field. As a political leader, he can never be as important as Narendra Modi, Sushma Swaraj, Arun Jaitley, Mohan Bhagwat and other top leaders of the BJP and RSS. Swami Ramdev does not deserve to be projected by the Hindus as a future Prime Minister of India like Narendra Modi, Sushma Swaraj or Arun Jaitley.Swami Ramdev has got neither the training nor the experience, which can make him suitable for the post of Prime Minister of India. He has a very limited knowledge about Politics and Economics.Ashok T. Jaisinghani.
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__________________________----- Original Message -----From: sandeshSent: 21 Mar 2011 2:40 PMSubject: {UnitedHinduFront} Swami Ramdeo's broadcast is stopped from todayNamaskar to all,i came to know that today Swami Ramdeo said some things which do disturb:1. there won't be live program of Shri Ramdeo on Astha channel.government has put restriction on his live telecast in morning. information and broadcasting ministry has put restrictions, why? nobody knows.
2. to defame Swami's name, one lady is told to disclose in front of media that she has Baba Ramdeo's child with her.3. to trap Ramdeo in charge of murders, attempts of giving money to various saints have shamelessly been carried out.4. all cable operators are encouraged to stop Astha channel broadcasts.5. there is no Astha live on Astha website. this is done so that NRIs could not watch swami Ramdeo.what to say about this no. 1 curropt government of Bharat?--
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*************************************************************************_________________________----- Original Message -----From: N Hirani <n_hirani@sky.com>To: savarkar vinayak ;Sent: 23 Mar 2011 3:12 AMSubject: Re: Fw: INDIAN DICTATORSHIP - Emergency is backHare KrishnaSavarkar VinayakThere is nothing new in this, this is going on all the time, Big, Big Industrialist like Ratan Tata, Mukesh Ambani etc can give you lecture on immorality for hours and hours but they have got no guts to say, root of all immorality is Sonia Gandhi and her corruption, even they know that, these is Indian democracy, that you all cheer is and glorify, and same thing not any television channel will say that, no matter how much proof they have, if they don't want to lose their television licence.She (Sonia Gandhi) is fourth class woman that supplies Congi with all her fourth classiness no wounder they cheeries her and guard her with all the protection, you can only criticize her if you get her convicted in court, that you can only do if you have got nothing to lose or nothing to fear of being found to be corrupt in totally corrupt Raj where there is impossible to be free of corruption, that way they can only not get you and you can get them. For which there are very few like Ramdev Babaji, Subharamaniyam Swami, Modi etc. no wounder they (Congi) are after them like their (Congis) bollocks on fire. to get them, to stop them from exposing her what fourth class woman she is, because that is their (Congi) licence (corrupt) to their livelihood. As far as they are concern during Congi Raj She (Sonia Gandhi) should be beyond criticism, why? because no body should get to her to expose her what fourth class woman she is. That is how much they are protecting her.NaranH_____________________________________________________
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:01 PM, savarkar vinayak <savarkar_vinayak@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Dear Friends,
In yesterday's program in Hydrabad Baba Ramdev mentioned few things which are very disturbing, looks like emergency is back. he mentioned:
1. So far all Babaji's morning Yoga programs (5 -7:30AM) were being telecast live on Astha, but now the Ministry of Information and Broadcasting has stopped the live telecast of his programs.
2. The cable providers are being forced not to provide Astha channel otherwise they will be punished.
3. Now we are not getting any more the live broadcast of Babaji's morning programs (which I had been regularly watching for the last 2 months and enjoying tremendously), today they had to repeat an earlier program.
4. To defame Baba Ramdevji and discredit his revolutionary movement, Babaji mentioned that the government tried to buy out a woman if she telsl the media that she was carrying Babaji's child. Of course the woman refused to comply even if she was given corers of rupees.
5. Few days ago some police officials went to the house of his parents and dug up the ground inside to find out if there was any money buried under ground. What a shame!
6. There are similar other conspiracies being hatched by the modern day's Duryodhans to stop Baba Ramdev in campaigning against the political corruption.
This corrupt UPA government is getting panicky due to the unprecendated support Baba Ramdevji is receiving all across India and abroad. In fact during his North-East tour he had lakhs of people joining in all his programs, and now he is touring South India starting with Andhra Pradesh where every morning at 5 AM thousands of people come to listen to him. Government is extremely nervous because he is not only teaching Yoga but also educating the public about the corruption, economics, swadeshi and patriotism.
I am surprised that so far no one in BJP/RSS or any one in the media has raised the voice against this anti-democratic and emergency type censureship on public information and education.
Dinesh Agrawal
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