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Saturday, August 14, 2010

Fwd: The Hindu : Today's Paper / OPINION : Letter to the Group of Ministers on caste Census



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Date: Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: The Hindu : Today's Paper / OPINION : Letter to the Group of Ministers on caste Census
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Dilip bhai,
Thanks for circulating this letter, for this intervention is vital at this stage. Otherwise the whole point of any kind of caste enumeration will be lost.
I would just like to correct your impression that it this late stage I have quietly changed my mind. I have not. Right from the beginning (at least a year before the parliamentary debate), I have been arguing for and trying to put pressure on policy makers to expand the existing caste enumeration in the Census. That places me firmly against those who argue against any kind of caste enumeration or the expansion of the existing enumeration (e.g. my friends like Pratap Mehta and Sunil Khilnani) and in the camp of those who are for "caste enumeration" (e.g. my friends like yourself and Satish Deshpande). If forced to choose between these two camps I would definitely choose the pro-caste enumeration camp. That is why I sent a note to the Bangalure seminar, came for the launch of the book based on that, defended caste-census against the representative of Meri Jaat Hindustani on CNN-IBN on the 12th and have signed the latest letter. Compared to the existing policy I do welcome the decision of the GOM.
But I do have a difference with the camp that I have chosen to side with. Census categories should be driven by policy needs and I cannot pursuade myself that counting all castes is the most pressing policy need today. What we need above all is the enumeration of the OBCs (and DNSNTs, which I had not thought of earlier -- that is one change in my thinking) which is a legal category. I do not see the full force of Satish's (and Mary's) point that on principle everyone should be equally marked or unmarked. Nor do I share your hope that counting all castes would help the cause of social justice more than counting OBCs would. I do think there is a real risk in pushing for all-caste count in this census: it can jeopardise the good that could acutally come from OBC count. I cannot be entirely sure that my apprehensions are well founded and would be happy to be proven wrong.
In other words your and my differences have not disappeared. But I do believe in thinking hard about what are my principal differences and which ones are secondary differences and I am very conscious of how suicidal is that politics which spends its principal energies on fighting its friends. I would not wish to lose all sense of proportions when stating my secondary differences. In any case, on question of social justice I am condemned to disagree with my friends. As you would recall, I (and also Satish then) was not in favour of flat 27% reservation for OBC; my first preference then was a graded system that recognised multiple disadvatages not confined only to the caste dimension. But then 27% quota was better than nothign at all. Similarly, unlike most friends in the 'social justice camp' I do support the idea of screening based on some kind of a "creamy layer" principle and I also advocate sub-quotas within the SC/ST/OBC quotas. Pushed to the wall, I would stand for the social justice camp, for that is where my principal commitment lies.  But I do not want to be misunderstood about what my real preference is and where I stand. I have disagreed with the social justice camp and will continue to express my disagreement in the hope that politics of social justice will become more intelligent and effective than it is today.
For the time being it should be our collective effort to get rid of this obnoxious suggestion of shifting caste count at the biometrics stage. YOu and I can continue to disagree at leisure.
YOurs


Yogendra Yadav,
Senior Fellow, Centre for the Study of Developing Societies, 29 Rajpur Road, Delhi 110054 India
Office Phone: 23981012 (telefax Lokniti, CSDS), 23942199 (PBX, CSDS)




On 14 August 2010 13:08, dilip mandal <dilipcmandal@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Satish ji,

I have seen the statement. It's very important intervention. Let's also welcome Yogendra Yadav on board, though at this later stage. It's good see him supporting caste census and not the OBC enumeration.  

regards,

dilip

Note - Pl see this document from parliament archive. It explains the timeline of biometric data collection.  - 

GOVERNMENT OF INDIA

 

MINISTRY OF 

PLANNING

 

RAJYA SABHA

 

UNSTARRED

 QUESTION NO 

2995

 

ANSWERED ON  

22.04.2010

 

VOLUNTEERS SERVICE FOR UNIQUE IDENTIFICATION .

 

2995 .

SHRI TARIQ ANWAR

 



(a) whether it is a fact that Government has decided to give Unique Identification to every person of the country;
 

(b) if so, the details thereof;
 

(c) whether it is a fact that Volunteers and NGOs are ready to provide their services for early completion of this project; and
 

(d) if so, the time it will take for its implementation?

 

ANSWER

MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS 

(SHRI V. NARAYANASAMY)
 

(a) to (d): The mandate of the Unique Identification Authority of India (UIDAI) is to issue unique identification numbers to all residents of the country.
 

The first set of numbers are expected to be issued between August 2010 to February 2011. The Authority plans to cover 600 million people within 4 years from the start of the project. Consultations are on with civil society organizations, activists and other groups working on the field to ensure that the programme reaches the marginalized groups. UIDAI has formulated guidelines to procure the services of volunteers with specialised skills.


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Subject: The Hindu : Today's Paper / OPINION : Letter to the Group of Ministers on caste Census
To: dilipcmandal@gmail.com


Dilip, pl. look at this and circulate.  Can we think of publishing a Hindi version?
best,
Satish

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-opinion/article569547.ece?sms_ss=email

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